Tuesday, December 3, 2013

Atrophotography which camera to use?

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I have a orion xx12 telescope and i am not really ready for the photography side of astronomy yet BUT my grandfather is absolutely set on buying me a camera for my scope so i have agreed to getting 1 but which kind is better a digital or a film camera and also which make is the best for this job
In the catalog i got with the telescope has a bracket that is for the orion xx12 anyway i should really ask this question in about 5 years time because i only had the scope for 2 months or so and i (would rather have a shed for my scope) just need a camera for now really because my granddad is bugging me that i should be able to photograph the likes of saturn and such so just to experiment with what could i get for 250pounds that would be a good starter.



Answer
First off, the XX12 is not suitable for astrophotography. You need a telescope that can be polar aligned and tracks. The XX12 does neither, since it is a altitude-azimuth mount, instead of a equatorial type mount and has no drive motors.

You'll be wanting something more like this -
http://www.telescope.com/Telescopes/GoTo-Computerized-Telescopes/Orion-Atlas-10-EQ-G-Reflector-Telescope-with-GoTo-Controller/pc/-1/c/1/sc/15/p/24735.uts

or this -
http://www.telescope.com/Telescopes/GoTo-Computerized-Telescopes/Celestron-EdgeHD-1400-CGE-Pro-Schmidt-Cassegrain-Telescope/pc/-1/c/1/sc/15/p/9552.uts

You can use a web camera for doing simple lunar and planetary work. Then you can capture a few seconds worth of video and then stack the frames up to get a picture.
http://www.telescope.com/Astrophotography/Astrophotography-Cameras/Orion-StarShoot-Solar-System-Color-Imaging-Camera-IV/pc/-1/c/4/sc/58/p/52175.uts

For alt-az and deep space work, you can only expect to get no more than 30 seconds of shutter time before image rotation sets in -
http://calgary.rasc.ca/field_rotation.htm
http://www.astronomyasylum.com/telescopemountstutorial.html

But if you want to look at cameras, you need to figure out a couple things -

Do you want to use an off shelf DSLR camera? That you can use during the day as well as night?

Or, a dedicated camera that is for astrophography only? And do you want the camera to do color or monochrome?

A DSLR is a a nice choice for starting out, since you can dual purpose it. The problems with it are that you need to be able to control the shutter for minutes (most only go to 30 seconds) and it needs to have low electronic noise. The preferred DSLR's to use are from Canon. A dedicated DSLR for astrophotography is Canon's 60Da (about $1660), but they do make other cameras that are cheaper.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/03/canon-eos-60da-dslr-astronomy-night-shooting-price-release-date/

They have a wide amount of support from 3rd party vendors for camera and shutter control. One of the easiest to use is Nebulosity -
http://www.stark-labs.com/nebulosity.html

For a dedicated astro camera, they come to two flavors, color and monochrome. Color is the easiest, since it does it all in one shot. But is suffers in resolution - the amount of detail the camera can see. Since one 1/3rd of the ccd element is covered by either a red, green or blue filter (your eye works along the same lines).

Monochrome cameras have better resolution, but you need to take images in red, green and blue filters and then combine them for color. Which can be very time consuming and has a high learning curve for getting it right.

http://www.telescope.com/Astrophotography/Astrophotography-Cameras/Orion-StarShoot-Mono-Imaging-Camera-III-and-5-Filter-Wheel/pc/-1/c/4/sc/58/p/22076.uts
http://www.telescope.com/Astrophotography/Astrophotography-Cameras/Orion-StarShoot-Pro-V20-Deep-Space-Color-CCD-Imaging-Camera/pc/-1/c/4/sc/58/p/52085.uts

What is a good camera? (thats not too expensive)?




Username.


The kind like this...

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=Canon_60D_2012&sc=Global&cp=1&sp=-bestsellingsort+skuid&qp=q43616e6f6e5f3630445f32303132~~cabcat0400000%23%231%23%23b~~cabcat0401000%23%231%23%23b~~ncabcat0401005%23%233%23%23b&list=y&usc=All+Categories&nrp=15&p=%5Bpromotion%2C+synonymns%5D&_D%3Ap=+&pu=defaultusr&_D%3Apu=+&pt=1340514001&iht=n

ORRRR..........

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=Canon_Rebel_T3_T2i_T3i_20111218&sc=Global&cp=1&sp=-bestsellingsort+skuid&qp=q43616e6f6e5f526562656c5f54335f5432695f5433695f3230313131323138~~cabcat0400000%23%231%23%23f~~cabcat0401000%23%231%23%23f~~ncabcat0401005%23%232%23%23f&list=y&usc=All+Categories&nrp=15&p=%5Bpromotion%2C+synonymns%5D&_D%3Ap=+&pu=defaultusr&_D%3Apu=+&pt=1339304401&iht=n


I'm 16 and my parents want to know what I want for my bday that's coming up, and i don't think im getting a car until I get a job, so I want to find these for a little less somewhere. Like under $500.



Answer
The fact is, to get one of these cameras, you should spend a little bit more (like 100$). You will need lenses, accessories, and memory (if you don't already have something adequate enough). Although, at just under 500 dollars, you can get this:
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/753766REG/Canon_5757B002_EOS_Rebel_T3_Digital.html> , or
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/855241-REG/Nikon_13145_Nikon_1_J1_Digital.html>
It doesn't include much (one single starter's lens), and don't get me wrong, it's still great, but definitely far from the best!

If you're looking for zoom, which most people do look for, you won't find some giant zoom range in lenses in your price range.

Personally, I think you'd be better off with a compact for the moment, develop your photography skills a bit more and stack up some more money; then buy one of these DLSRs...you won`t regret it!

Anyway, a good website to visit in order to let you determine a good camera (DLSRs and compacts) that fits your needs is this one : <http://www.dpreview.com/reviews> . You'll see that there is a selection tool to arrange it by rating, brand name, and date of release. Also, if you go to the conclusion of each review, there is a comparison tool between similar cameras (so you can compare ergonomics, performance, value for the money, image quality, etc.)

I hope it helps,
A fellow photographer

BTW: A good website to buy photography-related equipment ( at usually awesome prices) is <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/>




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